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my 82 year old mother, that lives in wisconsin, just sold her home and has $200,000 to invest for an income?

08 Mar

stream. anuities? bonds? she would like to leave it to hiers, also.

 
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  1. shop2early

    March 8, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Great, for your mom. It’s her choice, and her money, I am sure she will do what she feels is best.

     
  2. orange

    March 8, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    Try some of the Vanguard products. They are low in cost and offer a variety of products that offer a nice balance of risk. So she can preserve her money , keep up with inflation, and get a little extra income.
    Maybe a combination of low -medium risk mutual funds and also some bonds.

     
  3. dpepperdrinker

    March 8, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    buy a brand new house or two in a good area and put it up for rent. My parents have been collecting rent on some houses for 30 years.

     
  4. ziggydiggy1

    March 8, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    FIXED INCOME. At that age you can’t screw around with “expected” cash flows. I have a pretty high degree of faith in portfolio theory and efficient markets – they aren’t perfect but for the individual investor they are the best bet. Find a low cost bond/income mutual fund that will pay a fat coupon/dividend several times throughout the year.

    If you want an even more certain cashflow, look into annuities. They aren’t as liquid (easily traded) but fixed annuities can be more certain.

     
  5. muncie birder

    March 8, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    I can give an opinion but I must caution that it is only an opinion. $100,000 in 6-mo t-bills. This will provide a current income of about $5000. Unfortunately, it is not a lot but the capital is relatively safe. And the income generated is comprable to that generated with longer term bonds currently.

    The other $100,000 in an equity income fund such as
    T Rowe Price equity income fund There is some risk to this portion of the portfolio but the stocks that fund invests in are of a conservative nature. The fund will pay capital gains distributions once or twice a year. Consequently, the dividend stream will be somewhat eratic, which is unfortunate. Although the average return of this fund has been about 10% annually over the last 10 years, it has varied greatly from year to year from about a +28% to a -10%. For an equity based fund, that is not a bad variance. Actually, shares of the fund can be redeemed as money is needed to smooth out the income stream.

    So currently there would be an expected income stream of about $15000 a year more or less.

     
  6. Joel CA

    March 8, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    First, you should probably check with a licensed financial planner in Wisconsin, in order to find out what the state has for favorable tax laws, then move into stocks that pay dividends close to the ten year treasury rate. (3.0-5.0% dividend yield) then you get stock upside, plus income. Bonds may also be a good idea, because rates are starting to rise. But it looks as though the stock market is pricing that in, so stocks should plow ahead at least until the next presidential elections. If you would like to make the money work hard, you may want to hire an active portfolio manager, otherwise check with a certified financial planner and lock in something longer term.

     
  7. Uncle Leo

    March 8, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Your question doesn’t say anything about her probable life expectancy or her tolerance for risk. So we’re in the dark a bit. Nevertheless, think about these two possibilities.

    1. If she has a good chance of living into her 90’s, a lifecycle fund for retirees may be best. Lifecycle funds are mutual funds where the money is allocated by fund employees into a diversified portfolio. A lifecycle fund for retirees is one that will be heavily invested in bonds, but with somewhat less than half of its assets invested in stocks as a hedge against inflation. The advantage of a lifecycle fund is that your mother doesn’t have to do any money management. The fund personnel do it for her. And they can send her a monthly check in whatever amount she specifies. Whatever she doesn’t spend during her lifetime, her heirs will inherit. Vanguard offers inexpensive lifecycle funds.

    2. If your mother has little tolerance for risk and/or may not have many years left, consider investing the money in 10-year U.S. Treasury notes. These “notes” are actually bonds and are safe, since they are obligations of the U.S. government. You can buy them from a stockbroker or from the U.S. Treasury at a website called Treasury direct. They don’t give her much protection against inflation. But if she doesn’t have many years left, that won’t matter a lot. These bonds pay about 5.15% at the moment, so that would be around 10K a year in income. Most likely, the interest wouldn’t be taxed by the State of Wisconsin (since states generally don’t tax interest paid by the federal government). If the interest payments aren’t enough, your mother can sell whatever bonds she needs for living expenses. Whatever she doesn’t use will be left for her heirs.

    3. Annuities aren’t a good idea, not if she wants to leave an inheritance. Annuities either eliminate the inheritance, or significantly reduce it. Besides, they tend to be expensive (in terms of fees and other charges).

    See the webpages listed below for more info. Good luck

     
  8. julie's_GSD_kirby

    March 8, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    hi….I am not going to add to what others have said, but I wanted you to think of this as well…..what happens if your mom has to go into a nursing home at some point? that is $6k to $10k a month!!!!!! there goes her money…right in the nursing home pockets. she can’t get title 19 to pay for nursing home care, because she has too much money in assets. and she can’t give it away to family and collect title 19 to pay for the care..they go back 2 yrs if I remember correctly. you should really talk to a financial adviser who specializes in this type of situation and get advice from them. Please don’t think that I am being morbid and such….I went through all of this with my grandma and it wasn’t pleasant. All her money is gone…everything her and my grandpa worked for…poof….gone in a matter of 3 yrs…all to a nursing home. she is now 96 on medicaid and is “allowed “$45 a month for personal expenses….. her SSI checks and her pension ALL go to the home.